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Monday, September 27, 2010

Legalization opponents fear more stoned drivers

Opponents to California's Proposition 19, otherwise known as the Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Act of 2010, argue that if the measure passes on November 2, 2010, the roads will become more dangerous. USA Today quotes No on Proposition 19 spokesman Roger Salazar as saying "there won't be anything to stop anyone from legally finishing off a couple joints before getting behind the wheel."

Proponents point to the provisions in the law upholding current laws prohibiting driving under the influence, but Salazar's group notes a lack of clarity. While the proposal has provisions for the establishment of restrictions, opponents argue that there are no actual standards to determine impairment by marijuana like there is for blood-alcohol concentration.

Law or no, there currently isn't a way to stop clandestine cannabis use prior to driving, and police departments are burning tax revenue to enforce current drug laws. Federal drug laws remain in place, however, and will be in direct opposition to Proposition 19 if voters approve it. The uproar may be a new wrinkle to the Reefer Madness argument, though voters eying new sources of tax revenue may find the monetary potential more compelling.

130 comments:

  1. Sounds like a Prohibition era argument. Legalize it already.

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  2. legalize it and doctors will be operating high

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  4. Rob Ford, one of the guys running for mayor here in toronto got charged for driving under the influence a while ago.
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  5. There are already people behind the wheel and high. It isn't going to change anything.

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  6. People drive more carefully and concentrated when they're stoned.
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  10. as much as I think legalization is the way to go, any argument FOR driving stoned I find ridiculous

    the "it makes you more careful" argument is invalid

    fact is people have accidents when theyre sober, people are more at risk when theyre a little tired... so what about when theyre fucking stoned? shit can only go downhill, reflexes delayed, perception is altered... it's not a good mix

    if it was completely safe to drive stoned they wouldnt be testing drivers for it

    that said, it's far better than driving drunk

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  13. so drinking and driving is a lot less lenient than pot and drinking.. riiiiiight...

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  14. its gonna happen sooner or later, might as well legalize now

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  17. as cliche as this sounds, to me, i drive better stoned:P

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  18. haha! legalization only makes SENSE!
    think of all the money the government can get just by collecting taxes at the legal outlets...

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  19. i drive slower and safer when stoned, but as a responsible class M license holder i rarely if ever drive when stoned.

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  21. the important thing was that at least we got it on the ballot for the first time.... it will pass eventually.

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  22. "There are no actual standards to determine impairment by marijuana like there is for blood-alcohol concentration."

    I hate this argument. It is completely illogical. The law in regards to driving WILL NOT CHANGE. In other words, these same barriers to judging impairment exist today and is a separate issue. For example, you can't give someone a DUI based on his THC content, because he might have smoked the joint a month ago. You might be able to arrest him on misdemeanor possession, but not a DUI.

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  23. This is ridiculous... I drive stoned all the time and I feel like I'm much more careful than if I were "sober"

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  24. cannabis and driving is different for everyone but it a dark question that give power to the wrong people

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  25. I'm somewhat disappointed that marijuana wasn't legalized; it has never hurt anyone by itself and our economy would improve greatly if it had passed.

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  26. I can't believe it either Anon. People saying that doctors would be operating while stoned is insane. Alcohol is legal and you don't see judges turning up for work drunk. People are more responsbile then that.

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  28. This is silly. Weed is so much less toxic than tobacco, I honestly don't see how the government can get away with banning it...sort of like gay marriage. What right does the government have to tell us who we can love, or what we should do in our spare time?

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  36. Legalize it, and make stoned driving illegal. Just like drunk driving is illegal.

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  37. Legalization = more stoned drivers(?)
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  38. Legalization = more competition for alcohol.


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  39. I don't see how it being legal means that people will be stoned ALL the time. Alcohol's legal, but do we see almost everyone falling around the place, roaring drunk all the time? Actually, here in Ireland, we do.

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  45. this is obscene. There is no reason the us can't profit from legalization.

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  46. they realy can make some profit from legalization.
    its better then all those drug gangs ;)

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  47. lets just smoke a bit and think about it

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  48. Some people! Have you seen Pineapple Express? They could drive fine while they're high! Honestly though, it sucks that Prop 19 didn't pass. Now only criminals can sell it. Failed logic.
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  51. Driving stoned is all good till u run someones kid over. check your shit.

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  55. Legalization will kill the economy of drug dealers, that's good :>
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  56. I pretty much only hear of stoned drivers being more careful, stopping to avoid hitting chip bags, etc. So I wouldn't be TOO worried...
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  57. Stoners are not really dangerous drivers but still not good to be intoxicated while driving.

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  58. The taxes generated from the sale of weed could fund welfare and Medicare in the U.S. On the negative side, a lot of shady individuals with no jobs skills who were dealers are now SOL.

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  59. LEGALIZE POT
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  61. everyone blames the pot. alcohol is worse.

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  62. So they aren't fearing drunk driving any worse than they are pot heads behind the wheel?

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  63. pot isn't bad in moderation but excessive use is a fear among many opposers.

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  64. I'd say any and all drugs should be legal to posses and use. Laws should only get involved in specific instances like getting high while working, especially in jobs that involve the safety of others. Any drugs that are going to ruin someone's life will likely get them thrown in jail for other offenses anyway, there's no need to put someone in jail just in case.

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  66. I don't smoke but I don't see the problem with legalization. The U.S. can profit from it too.

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  67. isn't there studies showing that driving high actually improves your ability to drive?

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  69. It should be legalized already!

    Driving drunk is bad, but driving stoned isn't good neither. Being high is different than being drunk, but I wouldn't take a risk and drive a car high/drunk.

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  71. marijuana's bad mmmkkkkk..
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  72. mannn my friends drive better high.... jk but i don't think their motor skills were deeply affected by it.


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  73. Legalization, I believe, will bring the crime for weed down quite significantly... I don't know what's the hold up.

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  75. Whats stopping people from driving stoned now? I know it sure as hell isn't the laws.

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  76. They might as well legalize it already. The money the US would make off of taxes and such would actually increase profits and revenue.

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  77. I still can't believe that cannabis isn't legal worldwide already. Alcohol is so much worse.

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  78. im going to smoke a bowl now. later

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  79. Its already known that stoned driving is relatively safer then drunk driving. Drunk drivers are 50x more dangerous then stoned drivers, but are we going to criminalize alchohol? nooooooo

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  80. So there's no weed breathalyzer? Tell you what, legalize it and I'll invent one, sell it to every police department in the country, and make millions of dollars. Which I will then spend on weed.

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  81. legalize it, and give it the same laws that tobacco has here in Canada. I'd be fine with that

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  82. Unfortunately, that is a legit thing to be afraid of.

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  83. The biggest problem is not the drug itself but the irresponsible use of the drug. Drink driving kills far too many people each year but alcohol is legal. Weed shouldn't be legalised because the possibility exists someone might take weed and drive? Ludicrous hypocrisy.

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  84. Wow...nice post and an interesting conversation in the comments. I consider myself to be pretty conservative, but I must say I am fairly open to legalization. When you look at cigarettes, is it really any more addictive or harmful?

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  85. I used to smoke post but I stopped because I got wayyy to forgetful.

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  86. Why haven't they legalized it yet?It's just stupid alcohol is much more dangerous.

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  87. Legalize marijuana.. It should've been done the day after it was ILLEGALZIED, ILLEGALY.

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  88. I drive much, much better high. I relax more.

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  89. "legalize it and doctors will be operating high"
    are you saying this because doctors operate drunk, too?

    SURE DOES MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE

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  90. Yeah I think stoned drivers are gonna be a big, big issue coming up.
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  93. ughh it just needs to be legalized.

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  94. I wouldnt agree if they really legalize. There are WAY too much accidents who could have been prevented...

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  95. When people drive stoned, they're usually very cautious. I mean... I don't know anything about it....

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  97. Legaliz please, no reason not to be. If you have alcohol and tobacco legalized and are much much worse, legalize weed and regulate it = profit. +1 follower

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  98. Eeeh I don't know. I think if it did get legalised, it would have to be regulated properly. And I don't think that would happen.

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  99. Just legalize it. Legalize it and put the same restrictions as they do with alcohol and the "no driving under the influence." This is just a poor excuse for these people to fight against it...btw nice channel man haha.

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  100. Marijuana doesn't make drivers more dangerous. Alcohol does. Why don't they outlaw alcohol?

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  102. Driving stoned really isn't a big deal...

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  105. Well i live in The Netherlands, so weed and hash are legal. In my opinion its wrong, if you legalize it people appreciate it more and tend to do less stupid things with it. Driving stoned is stupid, and even in my country they are inventing ways to track them down.

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  107. Makes some degree of sense, really. Driving at any level of intoxication is an awful idea. : /

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  109. I don't find Mr. Salazar's point particularly relevant - his argument is rather specious as people are already driving under the influence of marijuana. While I agree that operating under the influence of pot isn't AS bad as driving drunk, I don't believe it's the smartest decision either, as it endangers other motorists. I believe we need better ways of determining whether or not someone is driving high (other than hearing them laughing hysterically, asking for water for their cotton mouth).

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